Pop Goes The Weasel

March 20, 2011 by Daphne

For a man who ran strong on a platform promising to end our current wars, Obama sure has developed a strange taste for bombing the shit out of people.

Today we’re securing French oil supplies because Sarkozy backed the wrong horse. It might be worth mentioning that France is none too eager to accept tens of thousands of Libyan asylum seekers into their dysfunctional African ghettos if Ghadafi wins the day.

The events of today make me wonder how Obama might whore out our troops if the Chinese start calling in chits. Maybe we can strafe a few black villagers to protect far east mining interests in Africa, knock a few billion off our debt by turning our armed forces into mercenaries who defend the foreign policy and commercial interests of other nations.

Obama strikes me as a man of little substance, a pale ghost on the world stage. He clearly believes more government is always the answer, but arrives like blank page every day on the job. I dislike this man down to the marrow of my bones. He reeks of entitlement and mendacity, another Ivy league prick who couldn’t nail a straight board or throw a fair punch if called to account for the bullshit that flows sideways from his ever crooked mouth.

Posted in 2011, Current events | Tagged liar pants on fire, The two faces of Obama | 37 Comments

37 Responses

on March 20, 2011 at 1:15 am gedaliya

Did Obama campaign to end the war in Afghanistan?

I thought he campaigned to escalate the war in Afghanistan, claiming that putting the main focus on Iraq enabled our real enemy, Al Qaeda to take refuge in Pakistan and escape defeat. He promised to get out of Iraq and devote all our military attention to Afghanistan.

Daphne, do you think “securing French oil supplies” is a bad thing?
on March 20, 2011 at 1:47 am Daphne

You’re right, he did.

I’m wrong.

I’ll lay my lack of due diligence on nearly every other matter he back pedals on.

Yes, I think securing French oil supplies with our military is a short-sighted endeavor.
on March 20, 2011 at 3:33 am westsoundmodern

Why shouldn’t the French secure their own oil supplies. Last I heard they still had a military, though their finest hour of late was blowing up a Green peace ship full of hippies while tied to the dock.
on March 20, 2011 at 11:52 am gedaliya

It is in the national interest of the United States to ensure that French oil supplies are secure. Even so, this war isn’t about securing French oil supplies.

This war is about preserving the power of the Saudi monarchy over the vast (almost unlimited) sea of oil under Arabia.
on March 20, 2011 at 3:38 pm Uncle Kenny

This war is about preserving the power of the Saudi monarchy over the vast (almost unlimited) sea of oil under Arabia.

ROTFLMAO, as they say. Are you sure it’s not the Bilderbergers or the Spring project of the Bohemian Grove?

I think the fact that we are fighting Al Qaeda in one corner of the world and helping them in another says all you need to know about Obama foreign policy.

As a training exercise for the military, I am all for intervention in Libya. Give it all back to the Berbers, I say. Their blue robes are pretty.
on March 20, 2011 at 6:04 pm Stoney

what am I missing…

considering how bogged down the U.S. is in other military matters, why didn’t we call in sick for the Libyan adjustment?

Are the coalition forces incapable of doing the job?
on March 20, 2011 at 7:08 pm Uncle Kenny

I was serious about the training exercise. It’s been a little while since the cruise missle guys and the air-superiority guys have had anything to do. Iraq is over and Afghanistan is mostly drones and close air support. Gotta stay limber and take your opportunities when they present themselves.

It’s not like you can fire off 100+ cruise missiles out on the target range or practice multi-national AWACS every day. Those missles cost too much, but if the politicians give you a live-fire target …
on March 20, 2011 at 8:29 pm Stoney

Using drones is not as exciting, but a lot cheaper. Especially the never ending rebuilding.

Let’s wait until it’s put to bed to see if U.S. lives are lost.
Hopefully none, but it’s early.
on March 20, 2011 at 9:40 pm Uncle Kenny

With regard to lives lost, it is always irritating that the media are completely unable to maintain a perspective on military deaths. There are four points to ponder that civilians, and especially lefty civilians who haven’t got a clue, fail to grasp …

1. Military folks choose that line of work knowing there is a risk of dying on the job. In that respect they are no different than construction workers (pre-OSHA and pre-womb state) who knew there was a risk of dying on the job. How many men were killed building the Hoover Dam, the Golden Gate, the transcontinental railroad. Lots is the corrrect answer.

2. Men in the 18-25 age cohort die at much higher rates than practically any other group … from things like murder, car accidents, and in other “hold my beer and watch this” ways. An old admiral once told me that he was always pleased to know that a carrier returning to port with no deaths to report meant that several lives had been saved among the thousands of young people in the crew, who would otherwise have died in civilian ways. (The military also tends to not publish the military death rates in “peacetime” activities like training. There is a reason my 1st year Marine nephew is not allowed to own a motorcycle. The Corps wants to be in control of how he gets killed, thanks.)

3. You can train endlessly and still not really know how to do a job until you go do it. The Irag/Afghan wars have provided real world training to an entire generation of the military and made them better at their jobs. The enemy and the mission claimed many lives. Some of that price can be offset by lessons learned that will save others down the road. (Of course, if one of those jobs becomes to suppress American civilians, that’s not so good.)

4. Warriors are for making war. Here’s a quote that Blackfive posted this morning in a slightly different context.

“I like Marines, because being a Marine is serious business. We’re not a social club or a fraternal organization and we don’t pretend to be one. We’re a brotherhood of ‘warriors,’ nothing more, nothing less, pure and simple. We are in the ass-kicking business, and unfortunately, these days business is good … As Marines, our message to our foes has always been essentially the same. ‘We own this side of the street! Threaten my country or our allies and we will come over to your side of the street, burn your hut down, and whisper in your ear ‘can you hear me now?’ And then secure your heartbeat.” –Colonel James M. “Mike” Lowe

Keeping such people sitting on their asses in camp is probably not good for them or for us.
on March 20, 2011 at 11:01 pm Stoney

Kenny,

I certainly want to get the most out of our defense dollars and have no qualms about dropping some scoundrel into the grease when necessary, but use discretion.

If another force is capable and willing to take care of Gadhafi…I say let’em have at it. Give our folks a break, not only the guys in uniform but also the tax payer..
lest we become war-weary, and risk civil unrest.

I spent four years with and around the USMC grunts.
They were afraid of nothing, except the SeaBees. :)
on March 20, 2011 at 11:23 pm Uncle Kenny

I hear you. My daughter-in-law was a SeaBee. She is fearsome.

I agree that we should let other folks carry out the Libyan trash, but it is pretty enlightening who says what about it. I am thinking of what we have learned in the last few weeks about everyone from Hillary to Farrakhan, Obama brings out their true loyalties.
on March 21, 2011 at 12:04 am gedaliya

Mike Potemra has put up an insightful post on NRO on the subject:

Potemra On The Libya Attack

And I find myself more in sympathy with Wolfowitz here than with Will, two men whom I greatly admire:

Will vs Wolfowitz
on March 21, 2011 at 5:30 pm mahons

Bombing Arab dictators is like eating a bag of chips, after the first one you want another.
on March 21, 2011 at 8:56 pm brad

Wolfowitz: “…I don’t see how any unknown could be worse than the devil who is in Tripoli right now.”

I don’t see how it could be any better. Meet the new boss.

What do you get when you overthrow the ruthless, oppressive government of a ruthless, oppressive society?

Anyone? Anyone? Beuller?
on March 21, 2011 at 9:52 pm Uncle Kenny

Will vs Wolfowitz … the only time I want to see that card is at a UFC match. Alternately, they could be in a dark room with bowie knives and a short length of rope connecting their off hand wrists. I’d bet on Wolfowitz, frankly, over that poindexter Will.

I have more, but my BP is already too high. Damn useless wastes of oxygen, both of them.
on March 21, 2011 at 10:05 pm gedaliya

Damn useless wastes of oxygen, both of them.

If only everyone would listen to out dyspeptic Uncle Kenny the world would be a better place, eh?
on March 21, 2011 at 10:10 pm Daphne

Neocons don’t quite grasp that dynamic subtly, Brad.

Kenny, can I throw a Krauthammer in the mix? He’s a toothy SOB. Despite the lack of legs, I think he could rip a few ball sacks loose in that arrogant quagmire of a mindless circle jerk.
on March 21, 2011 at 10:16 pm Daphne

By the way, when do we bomb the palace in Yemen?

Terrible loss of protester life happening in that keystone backwater.
on March 21, 2011 at 10:53 pm Uncle Kenny

Krauthammer vs. Wolfowitz is more of a fair fight, IQ-wise. All these damned pundits don’t have two principles to rub together other than filling their own rice bowls. They sure do talk pretty and sound authoritative. Newt is perhaps the king of that schtick. His speeches are tremendous. He always says the right things. His follow through is non-existent.

I am in a very “kill them all let god sort them out” mood tonight. Perhaps a little Texas chardonnay is in order. Wait for the click.

Yemen, by the way, is a pustulant carbuncle on the ass of Arabia.
on March 22, 2011 at 12:34 am Daphne

I hear you, Kenny. Stick your finger in the air and blow a load of high caliber bullshit in the stratosphere to keep the attention and editorial columns rolling in.

Yep, we’re surrounded by a bevy of low-minded sluts.

Yemen might bite us in ass before we know it.
on March 22, 2011 at 1:16 am Stoney

It’s interesting and kinda fun to exchange ideas and opinions, based on.. What we’re told on the TV or read in some cutting-edge publication that has the inside track on the latest fly-on-the wall information? That’s funny and idiotic.

The public doesn’t have a clue about what’s being said behind closed doors, what’s being planned or why. Most of what is thought or said is speculation or imagination.

As soon as Obama’s transparent administration is no longer encumbered by haters and racist, the real fun begins.

Isn’t Chardonnay preferred by the ladies ?
on March 22, 2011 at 1:40 am Uncle Kenny

= Texas Chardonnay
on March 22, 2011 at 1:54 am Daphne

I’ll have to wait until Friday for a taste of that fine gold.

Stoney, we’re deposing a dictator we’ve decided we don’t like, at considerable cost, to appease European oil interests and Saudi sensibilities.

It’s all a bad clusterfuck and I expect it’ll get worse.
on March 22, 2011 at 2:02 am Stoney

If we should want to talk about chills up our legs…

General George Patton Jr.-

“Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.”
on March 22, 2011 at 2:13 am Daphne

Sorry, Stoney, but I don’t care about Libya’s problems or the massacres happening in other parts of Africa, it’s not our business.

I’m tired of being the world’s selective saviour and public whipping boy. Let the third world work it out on their own for a change.
on March 22, 2011 at 2:32 am Stoney

Daphne,

I will see your ‘it’s none of our business’ and raise you,
four very airworthy, B-2 stealth bombers, and call it a day .
on March 22, 2011 at 4:50 pm gedaliya

Let the third world work it out on their own for a change.

This is never going to happen and it’s simply silly to wish for it. We are a global power with global interests, and we often act in the interests of our allies and trading partners. That’s the way of this world now, the way the world worked in the past, and the way the world will work in the future.
on March 22, 2011 at 6:19 pm Uncle Kenny

The Arab league has access to airplanes. Let them enforce a no-fly zone and protect the Al Qaeda rebels in eastern Libya. Personally, I think some YouTube video of a bunch of Arab pilots squaring off would be hilarious.

“Mohammed, get back here!” “Goose, tell me what to do?”
on March 22, 2011 at 6:33 pm gedaliya

The Arab league has access to airplanes. Let them enforce a no-fly zone and protect the Al Qaeda rebels in eastern Libya

How do you know there are Al Qaeda rebels in eastern Libya? That’s Qadaffi’s line.

You believe him?
on March 22, 2011 at 7:23 pm Daphne

It’s also the Washington Post’s line, to name another source. Seems they did a feel good piece on the rebels, turns out more than a few are aligned with Al Qaeda, fought as insurgents against our troops in Iraq or happen to be militant islamists who hate Jews, Israel and the American infidel.

I bet they’re going to make for fine oil buddies.
on March 22, 2011 at 7:37 pm gedaliya

It’s also the Washington Post’s line, to name another source

I searched their site and can’t find this piece. Can you please provide a link?
on March 22, 2011 at 7:43 pm Daphne

Sure, I saw it a few days ago, so it’ll take a couple minutes to dig through my history and I have to go pick up a boy who missed his bus.

Give me twenty…
on March 22, 2011 at 7:59 pm gedaliya

No problem.

(Laughing about the “boy who missed his bus.”)

Those days are long gone for me.
on March 22, 2011 at 8:17 pm Daphne

Here’s the WaPo article.

You might also be persuaded that the Arab League could have taken on the responsibility of enforcing a no-fly zone all by themselves if you give Leslie H. Gelb’s opinion any weight. He wrote an interesting piece that’s worth consideration.
on March 22, 2011 at 8:22 pm Daphne

You know, G, I do get the gut level desire to kill or depose Ghadafi. The man caused a lot of American death, he’s a nasty piece of work.

I just don’t see the justification or any compelling reason for us to be involved with his removal right now, especially considering the unknown factor of his potential replacements.
on March 22, 2011 at 8:24 pm gedaliya

Thank much Daphne. I’ll comment on these pieces later this evening.
on March 22, 2011 at 8:49 pm Daphne

I’m sure you’ll rip them to shreds, G.

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